The North Pacific Fishery Management Council passed this motion directing staff to prepare a report on Chinook salmon bycatch in the Bering Sea pollock fishery.
And where is the study on the central gulf drag fleet? How about some accurate info on the affects of harvesting so many millions of metric tons of the world's biggest supply of forage fish? Maybe polluk should be listed too?
Better keep a copy of that new National Fisherman edition. It will be just like the old pictures of beach seining the nearly extinct kings of the Columbia.
Keep the gear on the bottom boys and you'll catch plenty of kings, long as there are some to catch.
We could petition President Obama to take a closer look at the process. It's lopsided toward the big money industry and there will be no change until the people who are getting screwed stand up and be counted.
This order is a red herring. These guys sitting on the council have known something's fishy, very, very fishy, for at least 21 years - since the birth of the Pollock Fishery CDQs.
Loss of culture and tradition of living off the salmon in Western Alaska replaced by pollock fishery millions is not hard to see.
All conspiracy theorists unite with your complete and utter disregard for the truth about bycatch. The folks at AMCC and Greenpeace have no care for what happens to Alaska Natives. CDQ has brought millions into the region because of pollock, some more than other groups.
The millions are not in the region as blogger above has stated. The millions are in individual pockets and back into the sea as investments in the same fishery that is destroying the Western Alaska Salmon Culture.
Yes, close the pollock fishery. Then you will know real pain and ask for more disasters because jobs won't be provided and commercial fishing will go away. And the salmon still won't significantly increase in numbers.
Ah yes, a true slash and burn corporate fishing representative surfaces.
Listen here you little and deservedly starving peoples, you need us to show you how important people live (off the sweat of your backs and the pain in your stomach).
An ass is a dimwit from AMCC and Greenpeace who don't a crap about western Alaskans. They are the whores of rich people. Just because the greenies don't shave their armpits doesn't mean that they are better than people who actually want to work.
The irony of the situation is that if the pollock fishery is closed and the CDQ program dries up because of it, it'll still be the same in the Western Alaska villages.
Dont you get it? Shut down the whole pollock fishery and NOTHING will happen. The chinook bycatch was a lot worse in the 80s than before. People living upriver are getting too efficient at killing salmon and their communities are growing. Think of why they put restrictions on mesh sizes. Think of why people talk about too many beaver dams closing the streams. No more fur trading closed by stupid and nonsensical greenies who don't give a damn about rural Alaskans advocated for that.
There were salmon crashes even before pollock fishing began. Thinking that it is the only reason is such a bonehead way of thinking.
The people of Western Alaska are being hit with a double whammy - no commercial or subsistence fishing for King Salmon.
Also hurting are the people living up the rivers both Kuskokwim and Yukon all the way into Canada. We're talking about 20 thousand people strong.
If they can get their act together, they can made quite the big noise about their culture and tradition being pushed aside by a handful of men. Yup, they can make a big noise about being left in the dark.
to post at 7:19 you should try eating humpys.yes kings are a ligitimate bycatch of many fisheries just like you say,but the real problem lies in legal bycatch and illegal under reporting of king salmon bycatch not only by the trawl and drag fisheries but also the seine and gill net fisheries so eat your humpys and keep your hat on straight!
too little!way too late go F%%%% yourselves!
ReplyDeleteAnd where is the study on the central gulf drag fleet? How about some accurate info on the affects of harvesting so many millions of metric tons of the world's biggest supply of forage fish? Maybe polluk should be listed too?
ReplyDeleteThis report is 30-40 years overdue!
ReplyDeleteThirty to forty years to destroy a livlihood and culture of an aboriginal culture - The Salmon Culture of Western Alaska.
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How about just using the latest cover of National Fisherman magazine showing the setnetters with a big old king they caught.
ReplyDeleteReal smart Ess, more like dumbess.
Better keep a copy of that new National Fisherman edition. It will be just like the old pictures of beach seining the nearly extinct kings of the Columbia.
ReplyDeleteKeep the gear on the bottom boys and you'll catch plenty of kings, long as there are some to catch.
We need KRSA to kick some of the offending boardmembers off of the NPFMC.
ReplyDeleteWe could petition President Obama to take a closer look at the process. It's lopsided toward the big money industry and there will be no change until the people who are getting screwed stand up and be counted.
ReplyDeleteThis order is a red herring. These guys sitting on the council have known something's fishy, very, very fishy, for at least 21 years - since the birth of the Pollock Fishery CDQs.
ReplyDeleteLoss of culture and tradition of living off the salmon in Western Alaska replaced by pollock fishery millions is not hard to see.
All conspiracy theorists unite with your complete and utter disregard for the truth about bycatch. The folks at AMCC and Greenpeace have no care for what happens to Alaska Natives. CDQ has brought millions into the region because of pollock, some more than other groups.
ReplyDeleteThe millions are not in the region as blogger above has stated. The millions are in individual pockets and back into the sea as investments in the same fishery that is destroying the Western Alaska Salmon Culture.
ReplyDeleteYes, close the pollock fishery. Then you will know real pain and ask for more disasters because jobs won't be provided and commercial fishing will go away. And the salmon still won't significantly increase in numbers.
ReplyDeleteAh yes, a true slash and burn corporate fishing representative surfaces.
ReplyDeleteListen here you little and deservedly starving peoples, you need us to show you how important people live (off the sweat of your backs and the pain in your stomach).
What an ass.
An ass is a dimwit from AMCC and Greenpeace who don't a crap about western Alaskans. They are the whores of rich people. Just because the greenies don't shave their armpits doesn't mean that they are better than people who actually want to work.
ReplyDeleteThe irony of the situation is that if the pollock fishery is closed and the CDQ program dries up because of it, it'll still be the same in the Western Alaska villages.
ReplyDeleteListen to these fucking CDQ scabs putting their pollock royalties and bonuses ahead subsistence salmon.
ReplyDeleteThe former has been around for 20 years, the latter, forever.
Don't forget, fuckheads, a lot of us that depend on the kings live upstream and outside of your CDQ regions. The world doesn't revolve around you.
That's what I like, a guy with a solid opinion that aint wacky.
ReplyDeleteDont you get it? Shut down the whole pollock fishery and NOTHING will happen. The chinook bycatch was a lot worse in the 80s than before. People living upriver are getting too efficient at killing salmon and their communities are growing. Think of why they put restrictions on mesh sizes. Think of why people talk about too many beaver dams closing the streams. No more fur trading closed by stupid and nonsensical greenies who don't give a damn about rural Alaskans advocated for that.
ReplyDeleteThere were salmon crashes even before pollock fishing began. Thinking that it is the only reason is such a bonehead way of thinking.
The salmon crashes prior to the '80's was caused by the deep sea trawler fishers that came close to land - remember, before the 200 mile rule.
ReplyDeleteGreedy men destroying an ecosystem is criminal.
Wow, another well-informed opinion by an amateur research biologist. Who knew so many hung out here on Wesley's blog?
ReplyDeleteAddressing the comment made by blogger 4/13 @ 7:30 PM.
ReplyDeleteWestern Alaska residents "know real pain" because commercial fishing for King Salmon DID "go away". Been gone for awhile.
Went away on the Kuskokwim River; went away on the Yukon River; went away most recently in the small rivers in the Norton Sound.
Trading off the King Salmon for the CDQ money. That's whats going on.
Close down the pollock fishery and the King Salmon will rebound in about 20 years.
The people of Western Alaska are being hit with a double whammy - no commercial or subsistence fishing for King Salmon.
ReplyDeleteAlso hurting are the people living up the rivers both Kuskokwim and Yukon all the way into Canada. We're talking about 20 thousand people strong.
If they can get their act together, they can made quite the big noise about their culture and tradition being pushed aside by a handful of men. Yup, they can make a big noise about being left in the dark.
Screw the upriver guys, they can eat dogs. Kings are a legitimate bycatch of many fisheries.
ReplyDeleteGoing through the motion as if they care ordering up a report on "Chinook salmon bycatch in the Bering Sea pollock fishery."
ReplyDeleteOnce they get the report, it'll show that the King Salmon runs in Western Alaska are dead, dead, dead.
Their reports have been telling them that for years. The people of Western Alaska have lost faith in this regulatory council.
It'll be interesting to see where they will go from there.
to post at 7:19 you should try eating humpys.yes kings are a ligitimate bycatch of many fisheries just like you say,but the real problem lies in legal bycatch and illegal under reporting of king salmon bycatch not only by the trawl and drag fisheries but also the seine and gill net fisheries so eat your humpys and keep your hat on straight!
ReplyDeleteIn other words, "eat your humpys" and STFU.
ReplyDeleteYou "eat your humpys" while you can because soon we'll not be able to fish for any salmon once the Endangered Species laws kick in.
Protecting salmon in their nursery in the sea will be quite a battle but it can be done.
Incidental bycatch of King Salmon is "ligitimate".
ReplyDelete"legal bycatch"
Sometimes it's hard to wade through the BS even with chest wades on.
I usually just don the wetsuit before I check here.
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