tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post6633783560939889786..comments2024-03-26T00:58:48.112-08:00Comments on Deckboss: CDQ champions recognizedDeckbosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17148693485334011720noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-72476675230444783602012-04-20T20:15:46.045-08:002012-04-20T20:15:46.045-08:00That blogger at 8:57 on 8/14, pointed out a very i...That blogger at 8:57 on 8/14, pointed out a very important law, Title VI, Sec. 601, "No person in the United States......, or be subjected to discrimination under any PROGRAM or ACTIVITY receiving Federal financial assistance."<br /><br />The six Western Alaska CDQs are federally funded without oversight from the Federal or State government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-91123167196493151552012-04-20T19:17:16.697-08:002012-04-20T19:17:16.697-08:00Trust, that's something I can relate to. Impo...Trust, that's something I can relate to. Important part of survival for humans. <br /><br />I'm an admirer of Theodore Roosevelt, US President, 1901-09. My favorite of his nicknames is "Trust-Buster". He loved nature, hunting, and fair play.<br /><br />We're forgetting about all of the hard work he did to make economic opportunity fair to the general public. He also enacted laws to protect parts of our country for it's natural beauty with the idea that the wild land and water critters would always have a home protected by the country of the United States of America.<br /><br />He was an avid hunter and a fisher as well. If I was him right now, I'd be saying "Killing off the ocean living species in the Bering with Federal Dollars is not right!" <br /><br />That's the cdq program in a crab shell, a halibut skin, a salmon skin, a seal skin, just to stuff billions of dollars into a pollock skin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-28841745266184167852012-04-20T15:16:32.075-08:002012-04-20T15:16:32.075-08:00BT, I'm reasonably certain that you are not me...BT, I'm reasonably certain that you are not me so I will answer your questions about the CDQ program.<br /><br />I am not working on "getting the CDQ programs disbanded". I am working to make them do what they were intended to do which is creating economic opportunities for people living in 65 Alaskan coastal communities in fisheries related industries. I don't think anyone anticipated in the early days that these tax exempt social welfare not-for-profit organizations were going to morph into competitive for-profits using their tax exempt capital to monopolize fisheries business activities and force everyone else out. There sure isn't anything in the enabling legislation that would suggest that was the intent of congress or the NPFMC.<br /><br />"Why can't we sue to get it stopped if we don't like the outcome?" I wouldn't be at all surprised if you could sue and get the courts to order it changed. Stopping the abusive monopoly practices and unfair business competition would go a long way toward making it better for everyone. Making the CDQ group finances and governance accountable, nondiscriminatory and transparent would reduce the CBC-like activity that prevails today.<br /><br />Take a look at the Sherman Antitrust Act. It could be the basis for a cause of action in federal court.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrust_Act<br /><br />Stopping the CDQ program itself? It's very doubtful you could get a court to do that. It is nothing more than an allocation of publicly owned fish resources. There's nothing unusual or unlawful about that.Tim Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-1479214657642566132012-04-20T13:03:31.215-08:002012-04-20T13:03:31.215-08:00Let's not get off subject now. Are we not work...Let's not get off subject now. Are we not working on getting CDQ programs disbanded? Just like the gulf of Alaska rockfish lawsuit why can't we sue to get it stopped if we don't like the outcome?<br />We being honest hard working commercial fishermen!!!BTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-47436548801720959542012-04-20T11:23:06.912-08:002012-04-20T11:23:06.912-08:00Maybe, but if you do that, how would we know that ...Maybe, but if you do that, how would we know that you are not me?Tim Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-12165934578428038432012-04-18T22:49:10.483-08:002012-04-18T22:49:10.483-08:00maybe we should just identify ourselves as "m...maybe we should just identify ourselves as "manfromunk" or "nscrabber" instead eh TimmyBoy??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-49618830603963014862012-04-18T15:59:47.284-08:002012-04-18T15:59:47.284-08:00Will everyone posting here who is not me be sure t...Will everyone posting here who is not me be sure to let the readers know that you are not me? I'm getting blamed for stuff I didn't write which seems a trifle unfair. So in the future, if you would make it clear that you are not me, I would appreciate it.Tim Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-39394609450724921732012-04-18T15:12:02.790-08:002012-04-18T15:12:02.790-08:00The unorganized, recognized aquaculture associatio...The unorganized, recognized aquaculture association board reads like a 10 most wanted list of natural resource scoundrels of this region. They've lied, cheated, robbed,<br />extorted, abused and raped their way through public monies, & processes for decades. It's disingenious and utterly<br />gullible of the state bureaucracy to entrust the food security of Norton Sound to serial economic abusers & chronic failures. Indeed, a more definite recipe for calamity would be difficult to devise. This enterprise is preordained to end in failure because it's all smoke & mirrors for the trawl industry.Salmon ans the native culture dependent on the resource are bycatch.Our web of marine live and the human interaction with it are bycatch. It's an economic crime, and a violation of indigenous rights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-72134756497107443582012-04-17T18:55:39.986-08:002012-04-17T18:55:39.986-08:00I'm not on that NSEDC "Approved List"...I'm not on that NSEDC "Approved List" therefore I'm being Discriminated against. There are thousands of us with no voice up here in The Norton Sound.<br /><br />I especially feel sorry for the White People who are not considered worthy of their rights to the Resources because their only spokesperson is being persecuted and labeled as a lier by people who lie on offical State of Alaska documents. It's there, facts not to be ignored. CDQ, monopoly, crooks, denying people their right to be involved. I'm a Eskimo and my rights are being violated!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-91149801147215827792012-04-17T18:47:23.137-08:002012-04-17T18:47:23.137-08:00Dangle a CDQ generated Per Diem check in the face ...Dangle a CDQ generated Per Diem check in the face of a Judas and that's what you get - a supposed leader without followers. <br /><br />CDQ money<br />suppose to help<br />the people<br />survive<br />the slaughter<br />in the Bering Sea<br />The tradition and culture<br />traded in for a<br />CDQ Per Diem Check<br />Lowlifes, Blowhards,<br />Scumbags, Traditors!<br />Your Name is on Paper<br />We know who you are!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-92202185885149622692012-04-17T17:46:12.696-08:002012-04-17T17:46:12.696-08:00It's unlawful for anyone to be "excluded ...It's unlawful for anyone to be "excluded from participating" in anything that has to do with managing the Nation's Natural Resources. That's exactly what happened today in Nome. NSEDC, Norton Sound's CDQ group is strong arming a monopoly over the regions discussions on salmon restoration and enhancement projects for claiming to be the "RAA approved by the ADF&G". I don't know if the State of Alaska really wants to go down this path. It's discriminating against those not on the Approved List.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-30574943602946367672012-04-17T17:30:29.576-08:002012-04-17T17:30:29.576-08:00Charlie Lean from NSEDC gathered his hand picked p...Charlie Lean from NSEDC gathered his hand picked puppets today for a meeting of the "RAA recognized by ADF&G". This is probably his test of Manhood. I feel sorry for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-71883851449228460912012-04-16T07:07:00.365-08:002012-04-16T07:07:00.365-08:00We're coming up to our busy season especially ...We're coming up to our busy season especially where salmon are concerned. <br /><br />There is a lot of talk about "work" up here in the Norton Sound. The ones controlling the concept of "work" probably won't recognize "work" if it bit them in their fat arses accostumed to sitting around in a big shot chair demanding that the best "worker" for enhancing the 30 year salmon declines be excluded from participating because he "works" too hard. That's the truth even though the liars are saying otherwise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-62961792341646578702012-04-14T15:46:59.337-08:002012-04-14T15:46:59.337-08:00Sad to say that the report by Mr. Seth Macinko was...Sad to say that the report by Mr. Seth Macinko was put away on a shelf never to be seen by the majority of the stakeholders. Keep them down, keep them dumb.<br /><br />Anything negative by a "critic" is taken as an insult because these people are thinned skinned and/or hate driven. As Mr. Macinko pointed out, "Everyone that has a different idea about how to do things is not necessarily your enemy." The program itself has become an "enemy" of the people because it became part of an industry that is known to destroy salmon, an important resource for the livelihood of the Western Alaska poor people.<br /><br />For rational, progressive minded people, "Critics help us take a look at ourselves." The real enemies are themselves because they just don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. Self-serving.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-36467783075912689002012-04-14T14:42:29.705-08:002012-04-14T14:42:29.705-08:00Some of us have been locked out for 20 years and t...Some of us have been locked out for 20 years and the anniversary celebration was just another in a long list of insults and disrespectful treatment. We've had more than enough of being treated as the enemy by a gang of overpaid Anchorage residents who treat the CDQ program as their Cosa Nostra.<br /><br />University of Rhode Island Professor and NPFMC Scientific Technical Committee member, Seth Macinko did a study on relationships between NSEDC and Norton Sound community residents.<br /><br />He found that,<br /><br />"The sense of closeness and communication with NSEDC ties in to another issue that is important to the future direction of NSEDC and that is the degree to which people in the communities feel a sense of ownership in NSEDC as opposed to viewing NSEDC as yet another distant, faceless source of funding. If NSEDC views the communities as essentially a constituent (at best) as opposed to the very essence of NSEDC (and thus the "owners" of NSEDC, then the question of a sense of ownership is not important. But it is a vitally important issue if the communities are NSEDC (see discussion below under "Future Vision"). We found little sense of ownership in NSEDC on the part of residents in the communities."<br /><br />"The fact that in many communities there is not much "on the ground" evidence of NSEDC development effort appears to be a potential source of internal tension for NSEDC. This tension is likely to grow as NSEDC grows (as the pool of potential benefits to be distributed grows)."<br /><br />"But NSEDC's in-region efforts are not only a source of internal tension. They are potentially the focal point of an external threat to the long-term viability of NSEDC and the CDQ program itself. Immediately after the completion of the interviews, the project PI was approached by a prominent representative of the Seattle-based factory-trawler fleet who inquired about the "findings" of the project. Specifically, were we finding visible evidence of the program bringing benefits to the communities? This query was followed by the statement that while the objectives of the CDQ program were noble, perhaps there was "another way" to go about trying to achieve those ends. This was a sobering exchange that highlighted the climate in which the issue of community benefits must be considered."<br /><br />"It became obvious over the course of the project that there is a struggle going on over the vision of what NSEDC should be. In essence the struggle is between a vision of NSEDC as a modem multi-million dollar corporation competing in corporate America with a bit of community development tacked on versus a vision of an entity whose principal mission is to bring development into the region at the local community level. It is not our place to take a position on this struggle between competing visions. But it is clear that this fundamental question of identity/purpose has to be addressed before a coherent development strategy can be devised. We can simply report that we encountered near unanimous preference by people in the communities for the latter."<br /><br />"Finally, we suggest that NSEDC try to embrace its critics a bit more. Actually fostering development in the region is an enormously challenging task and NSEDC needs all the ideas and energy it can possibly tap into. We did not meet a single individual that felt NSEDC was not a positive force in the region. People simply want NSEDC to do more and we think that some of NSEDC's critics can be more constructively engaged. Everyone that has a different idea about how to do things is not necessarily your enemy."<br /><br />Planning for Community-Based Fishery Development -- An Independent Review -- Final Report<br />To Norton Sound Economic Development Corporation. Seth Macinko, Department of Marine Affairs,<br />University of Rhode Island.Tim Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-88763028357829238642012-04-14T14:40:00.157-08:002012-04-14T14:40:00.157-08:00It is certainly noteworthy that Henry Mitchell'...It is certainly noteworthy that Henry Mitchell's involvement in the shaping of the CDQ program was not recognized at the closed-door 20th anniversary CDQ gala extravaganza.<br /><br />Who did what 20 years ago is obscured by the way it was done. Like the anniversary celebration, the CDQ program was put together in secrecy behind closed doors. Ironically, as with the gala, the residents of the CDQ communities were relegated to need to know status back in the day and the people who set up the program figured we didn't need to know anything about it until it was too late to get in on the ground floor when the CDQ groups were being organized.<br /><br />It's been downhill ever since with the people in control jealously guarding their growing hoard of cash and fighting tooth and nail to keep the rest of us out. There have been 4 strong-arm takeovers of NSEDC's administration during the 20 years of the CDQ program, and there are signs that another one is imminent. One thing the coup leaders all have in common is that they viciously fend off anyone who wants a place at the table and that kind of money buys a lot of high priced mercenary lawyers and carpetbagging consultants to help them do it.<br /><br />Local politicians are so poorly informed about the purpose and goals of the CDQ program that they settle for a few dollars if handouts to keep them passive. Community residents are too poor to do anything effective and too busy fighting over crumbs to demand accountability, meaningful participation and transparency. Besides, nobody knows much of anything about the CDQ program in the 65 communities and the CDQ groups keep it that way.Tim Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-31497175991010159182012-04-14T08:57:55.076-08:002012-04-14T08:57:55.076-08:00This Act of Congress applies to the CDQ program mo...This Act of Congress applies to the CDQ program monies:<br /><br />TITLE VI -- Nondiscrimination in Federally Assisted Programs<br /><br />SEC. 601.<br /><br />"No person in the United States shall, on the ground of race, color or national origin, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-75646230297047132892012-04-14T07:47:20.290-08:002012-04-14T07:47:20.290-08:00bobbyt, drunken homophobe.bobbyt, drunken homophobe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-45461651131961131712012-04-14T04:29:45.157-08:002012-04-14T04:29:45.157-08:00Word is that Henry Mitchell is the Godfather of CD...Word is that Henry Mitchell is the Godfather of CDQ's and he was left out of the awards. <br /><br />Clem even stated that Mitchell was the person instrumental in making it all happen. Heard that Ted Stevens told Mitchell if he wrote the legal language and sheparded it into Congress that Ted would put pressure on the Secretary of Commerce to sign into law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-82405660485374170522012-04-13T21:30:37.220-08:002012-04-13T21:30:37.220-08:00The real bobbyt also says good will always prevail...The real bobbyt also says good will always prevail over evil.<br /><br />But I do not know Tim Smith. <br /><br />Now it's getting weird with you anonymous queers. Now you post someone elses name. Maybe bobbyt loves tim smith.<br /><br />Fricking whackjobs with nothing but time on their hands<br /><br />bobbytB Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13342266195316923897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-34979557028054230662012-04-13T19:31:07.155-08:002012-04-13T19:31:07.155-08:00I too thank Tim for signing on because those blog ...I too thank Tim for signing on because those blog watchers paid for by my Resource Monies can't say that my words are his words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-25937485399865237422012-04-13T06:48:15.325-08:002012-04-13T06:48:15.325-08:00Thanks Tim for identifying yourself on this blog.
...Thanks Tim for identifying yourself on this blog.<br /><br />As Bobbyt said, "good will alway's prevail over evil"!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-7851172893908316662012-04-13T06:23:58.440-08:002012-04-13T06:23:58.440-08:00I'm from Western Alaska and I didn't get a...I'm from Western Alaska and I didn't get an invitation to the 20year CDQ bash!<br /><br />Victor Joe, NSEDC director from St. Michael was recognized. For what I asked? I don't see St. Mike hussling and bussling as a great fishing village after 20 years of his involvement in guiding the CDQ program to provide economic development for his village and region. I heard that he was recognized for being on the board the longest - since the start of the program.<br /><br />With that much time and experience on the board, why isn't he the Chairman by now? Good question to ask him. <br /><br />He is a model board member and I bet NSEDC would like to clone him. Show up for the meetings; don't make any waves; vote the way the "handlers" want, collect per diem check; go home and wait for the next meeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-40900997855069699432012-04-12T21:51:57.795-08:002012-04-12T21:51:57.795-08:00Thank you. I'm betting the farm that we will f...Thank you. I'm betting the farm that we will find a way to do the right thing with the CDQ program. 20 years of what we have had is enough.Tim Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-51887458705897021062012-04-12T18:59:45.341-08:002012-04-12T18:59:45.341-08:00Keep up the good work Tim,good will alway's pr...Keep up the good work Tim,good will alway's prevail over evilBobbytnoreply@blogger.com