tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post5162655771510744527..comments2024-03-26T00:58:48.112-08:00Comments on Deckboss: A big little fisheryDeckbosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17148693485334011720noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-49548495382461551342012-02-20T12:09:58.168-09:002012-02-20T12:09:58.168-09:00TOM POLLACK //??.;'/..TOM POLLACK //??.;'/..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-61660196954773368812012-02-18T17:44:43.072-09:002012-02-18T17:44:43.072-09:00Seine the flats!Seine the flats!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-61449953935319258562012-02-18T08:52:39.247-09:002012-02-18T08:52:39.247-09:00"If you can't control what Trawl Nets tak..."If you can't control what Trawl Nets take from the ocean, then keep it on the beach." is the key to fair management of the resources that land based users depend on for a main source of livelihood. <br /><br />"Keep" them all "on the beach" as a consequence for the past bycatch numbers in relation to the declining numbers of other species such as crab, halibut and salmon. There is enough historical data out there to justify the restrictions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-53787181182099866512012-02-17T13:02:27.346-09:002012-02-17T13:02:27.346-09:00If you can't control what Trawl Nets take from...If you can't control what Trawl Nets take from the ocean, then keep it on the beach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-60517695888106842042012-02-17T12:02:51.346-09:002012-02-17T12:02:51.346-09:00There should be 2 comment boards on this blog.
...There should be 2 comment boards on this blog. <br /><br />One for opinions and crazy weird obscure posts, and another for facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-56204730551798087992012-02-17T10:31:42.542-09:002012-02-17T10:31:42.542-09:00Hahaha...@8:13 Two seasons Does Not Justify an Ass...Hahaha...@8:13 Two seasons Does Not Justify an Assumption that interactions Do Not exist! Especially with very little Observer coverage if any, and an Extrapolation of ESTIMATES. So, we are supposed to take your word for it? Hahaha! "Conjecture" would be to ASSUME incidental catch rates, based on what is seen crossing the shore side factory processing belts. I have fished the Alaskan circuit for 30 plus years, including BS and GOA Pollock/Cod/Crab and Salmon (multiple gear types), and can honestly tell you that Drag Gear is NOT in the best interest of any struggling finfish species, and Shrimp and CRAB for that matter! I have spliced more mainline cable and have witnessed more bycatch tossed off deck for greedy boat owners, than you have lost Anchors in the CR Delta. Don't tell me what you think you know! Because you really DON'T! I stopped Trawling because it wrecks the bottom! I know what it does, because I have watched the crt screens many long nights, and have crunched the net down myself. It really pisses me off when A$$holes try to justify Bottom Trawling, and that's what it is, no mid-water about it, to struggle to make their big boat payments! Hard pressed to stay afloat, they'd rather screw it up for everyone else! I'm not buying what your selling here dude!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-75571247431823777242012-02-17T08:13:40.459-09:002012-02-17T08:13:40.459-09:00Anon @ 8:15, you're don't know what you ar...Anon @ 8:15, you're don't know what you are talking about. Your whole post is conjecture based on nothing.<br /><br />I participated in the fishery for two seasons and I know what I saw. I also fish salmon on the Copper River Flats and Prince William Sound. So I'm sensitive to what happens to salmon. That's where I really make my living. There are no sockeye's or steelhead caught in the PWS Pollock fishery. The only juveniles dying are the pink fry the pollock feed on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-54856743925836778632012-02-16T13:53:30.183-09:002012-02-16T13:53:30.183-09:00HAHAHA!!!....Shut Em Down!!!!HAHAHA!!!....Shut Em Down!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-48898171919223273112012-02-16T08:30:29.535-09:002012-02-16T08:30:29.535-09:00Why do pollacks names end in "ski"?
htt...Why do pollacks names end in "ski"?<br /><br />http://www.greenrightnow.com/kabc/2010/06/03/senator-lisa-murkowski-drilling-away-at-environmental-protections/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-28535051642873157672012-02-16T08:20:23.806-09:002012-02-16T08:20:23.806-09:00It's always "cleaner than most" and ...It's always "cleaner than most" and just ask anyone from the drunken sailor squad of that Alaska Congressional Delegation, where clean is always defined by another pollack in Congress.<br /><br />"cleaner than most" <br />2012<br />http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9SU6QS01.htm<br /><br />"cleaner than most" <br />1969, congressional pollacks never change.<br />http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/43/1652<br /><br />Why did the pollack go to sea?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-38467358214473791702012-02-16T08:15:01.475-09:002012-02-16T08:15:01.475-09:00KEY WORDS!...No Sockeye or Steelhead Documented! Y...KEY WORDS!...No Sockeye or Steelhead Documented! Yet how many juveniles are subject to actual mortality? Fact is...Your gear is down, and you don't know what killing you are doing! Just because it doesn't come up on deck, doesn't mean it that is not suspect to mortality. Identification of juvenile salmon and steelhead is usually not much of a focus, when you are hauling back large bags of Pollock. It's mostly about getting the fish in the tank, and getting the net back in the water asap! Most deckhands aren't looking for juvenile salmon. Many could care less, and run them out the shit shoot. Especially with only a part time observer, and Federal logbooks to honestly record in. Salmon don't have to be landed to experience mortality. Incidental catch is a tough one, for sure! But with enough research and experimentation by-catch can be reduced and eliminated!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-4248030236637796322012-02-16T07:52:30.372-09:002012-02-16T07:52:30.372-09:00Pollock fishing should be kept OUT of any migratio...Pollock fishing should be kept OUT of any migration areas of Salmon! This King/Dog/Coho/Salmon, and Halibut By-catch allowance should NOT be permitted PERIOD! Let the Draggers fish outside the Salmon areas permanently! The ONLY reason they are nearshore is SPECIFICALLY for Pollock Roe! Figure out another way to harvest those fish without Screwing Up all other fisheries! Why was Dragging Eliminated in SouthEast? I Blame the Council for Screwing up the Salmon and Halibut stocks! And they should be Prosecuted!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-91213237940574636312012-02-16T07:49:03.796-09:002012-02-16T07:49:03.796-09:00anon @ 7:40, you're missing the point. The poi...anon @ 7:40, you're missing the point. The point is, I've never seen a sockeye in a trawl. Or a steelhead. Chums and kings, yes, maybe a silver or two. So I'm looking for documentation of a sockeye/steelhead bycatch issue in the PWS pollock fishery. It just isn't there. From my personal observations, it's not that dirty of a fishery. Other than a few squid, it's cleaner than most.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-45351715111805687242012-02-16T07:47:49.968-09:002012-02-16T07:47:49.968-09:00Pollock, from Pollacks!
http://www.illegal-fishin...Pollock, from Pollacks!<br /><br />http://www.illegal-fishing.info/uploads/1_GreenpeaceUSA-rethinking-sustainability.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-70566667240494782152012-02-16T07:45:02.494-09:002012-02-16T07:45:02.494-09:00How many walleye pollock does it take, to explain ...How many walleye pollock does it take, to explain to a 100% fact, over 0% emotion?<br /><br />Remember when the Copper River gillnet fleet was blamed, by Francis Miller for the Stellar's Decline in 1985.<br /><br />How many Pollacks did Dan Hull sleep with?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-56668618580783986952012-02-16T07:38:48.884-09:002012-02-16T07:38:48.884-09:00I was being facetious with almost all of the comme...I was being facetious with almost all of the comments!...Lol....One thing I DO KNOW is that a Billion Dollar industry is Tearing the shit out of the Bottom of the oceans, and Corrupt Azzholes are paying ALOT of money to have Politicians condone it, and ALSO Privatize a PUBLIC Resource. I could give a ratz a$$ about draggers! Really now....Pollock fishing should not be allowed to happen in PWS....Too Diverse of an Eco-system in my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-43601583617072139492012-02-16T07:30:54.293-09:002012-02-16T07:30:54.293-09:0090% semi fact? And 10%
With all that genetic rese...90% semi fact? And 10%<br /><br />With all that genetic research available, how many Pollacks are on the NMFS's most infamous NPFMC?<br /><br />Why did the Pollack go to sea?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-8956769687404597082012-02-16T04:28:30.439-09:002012-02-16T04:28:30.439-09:00There is plenty of king salmon bycatch seining. T...There is plenty of king salmon bycatch seining. They don't brail anymore. They roll it aboard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-76074664705845652632012-02-15T22:15:25.271-09:002012-02-15T22:15:25.271-09:00Anon @7:40
You speak of what you do not know. Both...Anon @7:40<br />You speak of what you do not know. Both of bering sea trawlers and of seining. I have seen hearing let "free" since there was no room left in the tender and they were anything but "alive" as they floated away. This will not cut down bycatch at all. And really thinking a live pollock market will bring top dollar is insane. Pollock is a cheap fish for a reason....there is a lot of it!! No one wants to pay a lot of money for pollock. The comments on this board are usually horrible at best since they are based 90% on emotion and 10% semi-fact. I wish people would research what they think they know before they speak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-84998250534103070482012-02-15T19:50:37.995-09:002012-02-15T19:50:37.995-09:00Drum seining is very possible on a trawler....just...Drum seining is very possible on a trawler....just give the skiffman an extra epirb and a flare kit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-89499902248838872562012-02-15T19:40:47.755-09:002012-02-15T19:40:47.755-09:00Anon@8:34 You are dropping your doors and net down...Anon@8:34 You are dropping your doors and net down, and CANNOT Control what you are taking...especially when you are crunching the net for the best pollock roe at the bottom of the fish schools....everytime you plow your doors into the bottom, you are taking out "existing and future habitat" for other fish and crustaceans, which is also, By-the-way, food for future Pollock age classes...If they are in the Mid-water Column, why not Purse seine for them? Seines can be built pretty damn big these days!...A re-structuring of Federal Statutes for gear types allowed to fish for Pollock should be mandated. Just imagine Purse-seining for Pollock on the Bering Sea!....PWS could be done in a snap! The fish could be kept alive and brailed out. Produce a higher quality product, keep by-catch alive while discarding them. Selectively filter out smaller Pollock that's not as desireable for the markets, and let them go also. Slow the fishery down, and focus more on quality and 100% utilization of the harvests. Why tow in 30ft. swells and haul back on a surging boat, while smashing a once perfectly good product?...Aren't fillets the product in demand? And higher roe percentages landed?...Think about the future of stocks, and not so much about the bucks made!....You'll get both if you can manage the resource properly. Been there done that buddy!...Gear type hasn't changed much in a long time. It's about time. You might have to actually work on deck tho!...lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-73172874089696164352012-02-15T09:10:12.602-09:002012-02-15T09:10:12.602-09:00It's pollock, not pollack.It's pollock, not pollack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-44815510856467772432012-02-15T08:34:55.556-09:002012-02-15T08:34:55.556-09:00Anon @ 8:11, what damage have you documented that ...Anon @ 8:11, what damage have you documented that would make shutting down the PWS pollack fishery imperative? Just conjecture?<br /><br />Anon @ 5:02 Maybe you could document for us all the sockeye and steelhead caught in the PWS pollack fishery. Even the king catch is miniscule. More are caught by local Cordovans sport fishing than in the pollack fishery. The PWS pollack fishery is short and sweet. It doesn't drag on like the Bering sea fishery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-67465830481591444592012-02-15T08:11:48.541-09:002012-02-15T08:11:48.541-09:00There is very little bycatch with true mid-water f...There is very little bycatch with true mid-water fishing; a few squid, salmon, sharks etc. However, this time of year you often "crash" the net on the bottom to catch efficiently and maximize roe percentage. Bycatch is worse than you realize. I caught very few halibut but a few salmon is common. The large salmon bycatch in the western gulf a few years ago was not typical. Legislation should be passed requiring net modifications to reduce bycatch. It can be done but fishermen won’t change voluntarily. Trawling is effective and productive. However, like SE, it simply should not be allowed in PWS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-37124325771154311842012-02-15T06:18:23.034-09:002012-02-15T06:18:23.034-09:00Trawling for pollock is a destructive fishery. Th...Trawling for pollock is a destructive fishery. The fishery pretty much manages itself right now with a little input from NPFMC, who's members are influenced by the pollock lords big time. Millions of dollars on the plate makes the difference when resources of the people are given to a handful of men to harvest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com