tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post2895835573125602909..comments2024-03-28T20:58:10.272-08:00Comments on Deckboss: Bristol Bay prices — a disappointment?Deckbosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17148693485334011720noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-43429686470279187332014-07-29T03:56:43.866-08:002014-07-29T03:56:43.866-08:00A statue may be a bit too much, but the SBS model ...A statue may be a bit too much, but the SBS model looks like it works. Give them two years in BB to get their plant fully built and fine tuned and they will be the number one buyer with the best overall return for fisher shareholders. Denkinger is kind of like a new Bundrunt, but more focused on returning value to the fleet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-44008625447336608102014-07-28T05:42:52.742-08:002014-07-28T05:42:52.742-08:00Last season the price was artificially inflated as...Last season the price was artificially inflated as the "big boys" fought valiantly to retain their top producing boats. This season, with the early folding of the tent of the clown offering two bucks, it became apparent there is no place to go. SBS has a model that no major should be able to compete with. Its called fishermen ownership. It works better than a strike, especially for salmon. It is funny to listen to some of the complaints. This whole thing is a business, and we all know the ethics of business are stretched everyday. The majors WILL buy the fish as cheap as they can. Whether you love or hate Troy Denkenger, excuse my spelling, we should be building a statue of this motherfucker. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-47289911885074314902014-07-25T07:03:47.495-08:002014-07-25T07:03:47.495-08:00Strikes don't work with salmon fisheries. Neve...Strikes don't work with salmon fisheries. Never have, never will. Don't fool yourself in believing BB fishermen will "stand down". Feel free to " imagine, if we kept those plants-(all geared up for massive volume) from buying any fish for a couple weeks" You might as well imagine a winning lottery ticket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-6595360196263748412014-07-24T14:12:36.268-08:002014-07-24T14:12:36.268-08:00Any joker that fools himself into thinking that Br...Any joker that fools himself into thinking that Bristol Bay fish are high quality obviously has never fished salmon anywhere else. Buyers elsewhere would not even buy 90% of bay fish for anything more than what we're getting. <br /><br />Keep fooling yourself.<br /><br />We slam out quantity, not quality. Hard too change that dynamic when we catch over 500,000 fish daily for days on end. All the processors are geared up to do massive volume, not boutique fish like Copper River(we catch their whole season in one massive day).<br /><br />Now, imagine, if we kept those plants-(all geared up for massive volume) from buying any fish for a couple weeks?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-6722919880723870712014-07-24T13:52:39.686-08:002014-07-24T13:52:39.686-08:00Area m.. my ass, we have caught more in one tide t...Area m.. my ass, we have caught more in one tide than they get all year. Our boat size is fine, quality is way up with RSW, flush decks, small brailers. The guys putting this stuff out about quality and boat size are self interest nut jobs. Has your buyer ever told you he doesn't want your fish for the quality is bad?? No.. He wants all he can get from you because he can rip you off on the price. That talk comes from idiots like yourself wanting a bigger boat to push locals and others away from the fishery. It does no good that talk, it takes away from the real issues. Your small contingent of guys wanting bigger boats just hurts us, stay on the point, price. The one the buyer gives you.. We got more in the 80's without any quality talk..<br />1978-$1.20. 4000lb brailers you foolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-64854911540224318372014-07-24T13:34:09.862-08:002014-07-24T13:34:09.862-08:00In Canada, Canfishco (AGS) owns the rights to salm...In Canada, Canfishco (AGS) owns the rights to salmon and hires day workers to go catch their fish. In Alaska Trident owns the salmon rights, by loaning fisherman money, sometimes tiny little preseason loans, and then lowering their grounds price and binding the fisherman to sell them their fish. They are buying Seine permits, drift etc with these loans. It should be illegal to hold terms on a fishing permit. The Cfec needs to sniff this out. Trident is also fueling this over capitalization by throwing money at fishermen if they sign their power chip away. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-57072386522224074682014-07-24T13:20:50.796-08:002014-07-24T13:20:50.796-08:00the bigger boat argument means nothing. Many boats...the bigger boat argument means nothing. Many boats in the bay can pack well over 20k. Even on good days this hold capacity and deck space cannot translate into better quality fishAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-11810785991912206992014-07-24T11:15:20.551-08:002014-07-24T11:15:20.551-08:00Area M salmon are high quality....bigger boats hig...Area M salmon are high quality....bigger boats higher qualityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-54956575394974525132014-07-24T10:53:19.310-08:002014-07-24T10:53:19.310-08:00"So we can demand a better price"??........"So we can demand a better price"??.....you are a fisherman, you don't get demand anything of anyone but your crewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-45191564384937433292014-07-24T09:34:23.025-08:002014-07-24T09:34:23.025-08:00Don't even go there with your bigger boat crap...Don't even go there with your bigger boat crap, next will be everyone two permits then fishing general district out to the high seas.. Get back to the point, price...why do we want to spend more money on boats and permits when we are all ready over capitalized.. Next you will want a seine.... Leave all that stuff out. Price is all that matters, if we didn't have the greedy scab types we could get somewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-84270365532874632262014-07-24T08:56:46.748-08:002014-07-24T08:56:46.748-08:00The comments that come from people about quality o...The comments that come from people about quality of fish from the bay dont fish the bay. We make deliveries less than every 12 hours. More and more boats have RSW, slides and padded decks. Yet I still dont hear anyone talked about smaller brailers and higher quality. This is not 20 years ago the quality is there and the price should be also. Come on really waiting on the Frasier river when most of this product is already sold. All I know is $2 bucks is a joke and $2.50 to $3 should be what we are getting with $5 a gallon fuel and $4 bucks for a loaf of bread its 2014 not 1984Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-81094487099954045642014-07-24T07:44:10.408-08:002014-07-24T07:44:10.408-08:00Bristol Bay boats need to be bigger and better so ...Bristol Bay boats need to be bigger and better so the salmon can be treated like food instead of getting destroyed before its processed.<br /><br />The sooner we make changes to the boats, the better our finished product will be. Let's all work on making a higher quality so we can demand a better price!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-74938209295425447102014-07-23T05:33:31.925-08:002014-07-23T05:33:31.925-08:00If Fraser reds come in strong, there may not be mu...If Fraser reds come in strong, there may not be much more price beyond the going home advance. Russian red harvest is supposedly good and dressed fish going into Japan at less than $3.00.<br /><br />Even the edge we had from MSC certification is gone. What could have trumped "MSC certified Alaska salmon" for marketing power? Send a note to Bundrunt and his boy thanking them for making our fish worth less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-39603870168126753242014-07-22T16:42:43.685-08:002014-07-22T16:42:43.685-08:00What a joke put on us fishermen in Bristol Bay. A...What a joke put on us fishermen in Bristol Bay. All that <br />Talk at the beginning of the year put out by the buyers how Silver bay is the (Low Cost) producer using the walmart model, and how they (trident,red salmon,peter pan) have worked to build costumer relations and loyalty. All that crap put out by them is just a reflection of themselves. They are the ones with no customer loyalty, just selling product to there parent companies in japan and the easiest way to just move on to there next ripoff operation. Innovation ?? They have none, customer loyalty?? They don't have any for it goes to there own shell company to show no profit in the USA.<br />These guys should get out of Bristol Bay. Remember, they are the scab companies---YAK, Trident, Icecle,---these are the king scab companies that broke our strikes in the 1980's and 1991. Watch now, they could move the Bay forward with the price but they will not, instead they will try to take it back down in price to try to out do SBS by having low cost high volume operations, my god thats what they are, just what they blame SBS for being... Please get out of the bay all you managers for the super seven, you guys suck and couldn't make it in any other industry. Retire please, we don't need your type....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-90975679885227783812014-07-20T13:40:53.352-08:002014-07-20T13:40:53.352-08:00Take the money, kiss some more ass, take some more...Take the money, kiss some more ass, take some more slander and duplicity from the rabble,hire some more kids to babysit,and come back for more suckers.it is so obvious that it is pathetic. But what a 2 weeks!! Poorest investment around,boats are expensive and permits are ridiculous!!gear will soon hit 30 a pound.what the hell the cost of entertainmment value is worth it.all in all beats SNL easilyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-608764893327523582014-07-20T05:19:43.954-08:002014-07-20T05:19:43.954-08:00Poster at 8:39 is correct about SBS on limit for o...Poster at 8:39 is correct about SBS on limit for one tide only. The mis-information about SBS limits and the Ponzi scheme comments come from one who is no doubt a Trident shill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-20596142332051949802014-07-19T20:39:36.745-08:002014-07-19T20:39:36.745-08:00I don't know who the moron is that talked abou...I don't know who the moron is that talked about Silver Bay low limits is but that happened for one tide.They had the highest fleet average by far do your homework before you speak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-29261763804022483402014-07-19T11:21:17.882-08:002014-07-19T11:21:17.882-08:00Strikes don't work with salmon fisheries. Neve...Strikes don't work with salmon fisheries. Never have, never will. Don't fool yourself in believing BB fishermen will "stand down" and don't say "if they did a strike would work"! You might as well wish for a winning lottery ticket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-26619778264572191922014-07-19T09:11:32.011-08:002014-07-19T09:11:32.011-08:00I retired from fishing some years ago. I get this ...I retired from fishing some years ago. I get this odd twitch every spring when I'm around the docks but it goes away, especially when I read the comments section @ Deck Boss.<br /><br />OT - Thank gawd that someone with basic intelligence got rid of the insane ant-robot sign-in on this site! It used to be not worth the effort.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-52734375656934580972014-07-18T21:47:53.893-08:002014-07-18T21:47:53.893-08:00You're fishers, but you are not men.
Real me...You're fishers, but you are not men.<br /><br /><br />Real men strike, use their control of the means of production to dry up supply and force the buyers to capitulate and pay a higher price.<br />Strike for one whole season until you get $2 bucks, sacrifice most of that season to prove your power, and never fish again unless the price is $2 bucks.<br /><br />All the processors will cave in and pay.<br /><br />It's that easy you surrender monkeys. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-10037615618072641922014-07-18T16:41:05.075-08:002014-07-18T16:41:05.075-08:00#alwaysdisappointed is right.
Us Bay fishers are...#alwaysdisappointed is right. <br /><br />Us Bay fishers are the weakest, most unorganized, and marginalized fishery in the US except for herring fishermen-(excluding Sitka). Poor saps that fish for $50 a ton.<br /><br /> Yeah, there are bigger suckers than you, unless you fish the Bay and choke herring too, I used to, biggest suckers on the water. <br /><br />I'll never fall for that song and dance again.<br /><br />But Togiak sure is beautiful in the Spring......<br /><br />ASMI has done great job, sockeye are selling for great prices to the consumer. Sockeye have been selling for the highest sustained retail/wholesale price averaged over the 10 years that I've seen in my 40 fishing the Bay. If you can't praise ASMI, you really got your head up...<br /><br />I know, I've bought and sold fish the rest of the year my whole life, my fish choking vacations in the Bay don't pay all the bills.<br /><br />Stop whining about continuing to get shafted on price, SBS isn't going to lose money at $2 bucks, all the processors can make money at $2. But the big boys will never pay it cause we will still go fishing for 0.40 and they know it.<br /> <br />And you know it.<br /><br />Watch what the price is going to fall to next year, with another good run coming. You'll still show up.<br /><br />And just half the fleet refrigerates, and our socks are still the lowest quality out there. Stop fooling yourselves, every other fishery bleeds, chills, and delivers beauties. Only seined pinks are lower quality than our fish.<br /><br /> I know, I've bought and sold fish the rest of the year my whole life, my fish choking vacations in the Bay don't pay all the bills.<br /><br />We run a huge volume, low quality fishery, and we can't organize worth shit. When we let the scabs break the strike 20 seasons ago, we lost control forever.<br /> <br />Get a clue, supply and demand.<br /><br /> Until we get organized and control supply, we have no power, we take the price they give us.<br /> <br />So all you Sea Lawyers out there just shut up and fish, like the SCAB Highliners do. It's all about volume baby, slam 'em, and jam 'em in the hatches, take your pittance for your labor, and catch as many as you can. I'm so tired of hearing you crying on the radio.<br /><br />Any yahoos left who still argue and this point just proves that any uneducated dumbshit can run a Bay operation. <br /><br />I've fished the Bay for 40 years and the whining never stops, and the price never gets better.<br /> <br />Look at yourself in the mirror, seriously look, you are weak, you fish for the company store, and you're too lame to do anything about it. This old man has heard enough for another whole season. Take your check and go home to Mama.<br /><br />Unless your willing to strike, and hold the line, you weak pieces, shut up and fish, just shut up.<br /><br />Cuz your never gonna do anything about it, you big tough Bristol Bay Guy.<br /><br /> I'm so tired of hearing you whining babies crying on the radio.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-2505482648252686222014-07-18T12:10:29.232-08:002014-07-18T12:10:29.232-08:00#alwaysdisappointed
You Bay guys with poor fish q...#alwaysdisappointed<br /><br />You Bay guys with poor fish quality and big egos are funny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-90266237654597665652014-07-18T07:54:00.715-08:002014-07-18T07:54:00.715-08:00Can we get our millions back from ASMI ? Obviousl...Can we get our millions back from ASMI ? Obviously they haven't done the market any good. Time to do away with that parasite.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-9398139676452361552014-07-18T07:24:05.693-08:002014-07-18T07:24:05.693-08:00I miss BobbyT.I miss BobbyT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-22012466197264016402014-07-17T22:31:59.591-08:002014-07-17T22:31:59.591-08:00Chums started at .60 in SE, chums are a total flop...Chums started at .60 in SE, chums are a total flop for most of the state, none to catch,,price is still .60<br />$1.20 is criminal, the State of Alaska needs to investigate.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com