tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post2540043687898427712..comments2024-03-18T20:20:11.576-08:00Comments on Deckboss: Bristol Bay forecast is out, and it's bigDeckbosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17148693485334011720noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-1761689769719427882016-04-02T20:37:03.087-08:002016-04-02T20:37:03.087-08:00It's pretty interesting that the people on her...It's pretty interesting that the people on here who are slamming the bristol bay fishery are in the same breath touting pebble mine, sounds like a bunch lobbyist trying to create a mob mentality to me. maybe im crazy but ive never spoken to another fisherman whose supported pebble mine and ive been fishing all over the state since i was able to hold a gaff. sorry but if you want to see a higher quality fish the incentive needs to be there. so that not round hauling to catch quantity makes "cents". And kind of moron wouldnt want a competitive market in any fishery?? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-41938755893993676772015-12-07T08:29:37.222-09:002015-12-07T08:29:37.222-09:00Nov 5 7:59 if your a big strike breaker then you...Nov 5 7:59 if your a big strike breaker then you forgot to post who you are must be Mr .badass rite!!! More like dumba__ still be putting them in for nothing and theres no problem with the bay ?you would be the problem! everyone spouts there horn louder when there held unaccountable so grow up your self and post your boat and name and get the credit big talker scab P.O.S.!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-83981290201414160302015-11-22T20:02:56.485-09:002015-11-22T20:02:56.485-09:00Bristol Bay has to be the worst salmon fishery in ...Bristol Bay has to be the worst salmon fishery in the state. Pain in the ass to get there, worst price, beholden to limited markets, no duration on the season so any mistakes or breakdowns screw you. Maybe Chignik could compare with their lousy market. How couldn't you see this coming a mile away? Abenomics and the Japs have been printing money as fast as possible, we sanction one of our biggest markets, markets consolidating, a bunch of new entrants. You only sing the blues if you don't pay attention to whats going on. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-23449787434976035822015-11-20T20:24:45.619-09:002015-11-20T20:24:45.619-09:00Yes, Bristol Bay fishermen are entertaining and so...Yes, Bristol Bay fishermen are entertaining and so is all other salmon fishermen are as well, I hear fishermen from many other areas complaining the they got paid 50% less this season, Bristol Bay fishermen will set an even lower grounds price next year for you and you all will be singing blues in 2016. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-9964843617251256392015-11-18T09:35:23.495-09:002015-11-18T09:35:23.495-09:00The guys who sold their fish for 31% less must fee...The guys who sold their fish for 31% less must feel pretty stupid. Keep this thing going you BB guys are entertaining, what a clusterf%$k.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-19427730409007178262015-11-17T06:35:40.957-09:002015-11-17T06:35:40.957-09:009:01 AM, Leader Creek. We received .50/lb base pri...9:01 AM, Leader Creek. We received .50/lb base price plus .22/lb for "best fish" After July 16th we received .65/lb plus .22 for "best fish" <br /><br />Because you asked, I'm answering your question. I know you are going to say "well that hardly represents the majority" and you'd be right. I'm just piping in with the facts.<br /><br />You were told you'd receive an adjustment later. Does that not indicate to you that 50 cents will not be the final?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-5371977626050317752015-11-16T20:47:32.447-09:002015-11-16T20:47:32.447-09:00if you don't like how your fish is being marke...if you don't like how your fish is being marketed or sold - you may want to change the processor who is buying your fish and marketing/selling it for themselves, not for you. they don't care about you>>> find someone else who has a better relationship with a retailer who actually cares about the fish and fishermen they're working with from Bristol bay. as a by the by qfc in seattle area selling previously frozen socks filet for $8.99/lb. - that's fun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-22239300382016365102015-11-16T09:01:32.093-09:002015-11-16T09:01:32.093-09:0010.55 Please tell us who has been paid .65 or 75....10.55 Please tell us who has been paid .65 or 75. I got RSW and still have only got $.50 and told that adjustment will be made later. So please tell us allAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-34426206169782495712015-11-15T10:55:35.521-09:002015-11-15T10:55:35.521-09:00Im not saying it's a good price at all, but wh...Im not saying it's a good price at all, but when are all you victims all going to admit that except for the dry boats, you're been paid $.65 - $.75 per pound? If we're going to talk about % of wholesale price, etc, let's at least use the right numbers. $.50 is NOT the right number and you all know it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-77242875430686577552015-11-14T18:41:02.510-09:002015-11-14T18:41:02.510-09:00Fishermen can't afford to buy the canned salmo...Fishermen can't afford to buy the canned salmon. We need a donation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-8597632770346763722015-11-14T07:52:25.089-09:002015-11-14T07:52:25.089-09:00If all skippers and maybe crew were to donated a c...If all skippers and maybe crew were to donated a case or 2 of salmon to food banks and churches and the soliciters on the street corners we could gain advertising and speed up the use of current inventory.<br /><br />Anything to reduce inventory is a plus.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02595114707740044413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-26751061927884873482015-11-12T11:20:32.946-09:002015-11-12T11:20:32.946-09:00OMG T Granger has crawled back out from under his...OMG T Granger has crawled back out from under his rock. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-7475047738176315822015-11-09T05:44:43.316-09:002015-11-09T05:44:43.316-09:00How do you wake up the others 5:19?
Make it simpl...How do you wake up the others 5:19?<br /><br />Make it simple, buy every fish on that upcoming 16 million 100 year average harvest. <br /><br />Put up the cash sign, and strip the Seattle Seven of product.<br /><br />"Silver Bay got the high volume part right…"<br /><br />You'd have to take a little risk, and post a preseason number, and maybe even have to raise it depending on if you wanted to; SET THE PRICE of Bristol Bay Salmon.<br /><br />"But when men have realized that time has upset many fighting faiths, they may come to believe even more than they believe the very foundations of their own conduct that the ultimate good desired is better reached by free trade in ideas -- that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, and that truth is the only ground upon which their wishes safely can be carried out…."<br />Mr Justice Oliver Wendel Holmes, Jr.<br />https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/250/616/case.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-82981992391350511292015-11-08T22:56:44.825-09:002015-11-08T22:56:44.825-09:00It will be worse next year, prepare yourself!!!It will be worse next year, prepare yourself!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-79128388871902441892015-11-08T22:55:08.351-09:002015-11-08T22:55:08.351-09:00When the price of sockeye drops in the bay it effe...When the price of sockeye drops in the bay it effects the price for all other species. My home pack is usually sockeye,Kings, and steelhead. I use the humpys I keep for substance red crab bait. A.S.M.I. Needs to do a better job. <br /> Btw I'm a seiner n think all salmon fisherman have some hard times ahead.<br />It doesn't look like there's really much hope this year for volume based fisheries below 58' parallel. <br />Save your money, split wood,fix your own equipment,live off the land, join a board to educate yourself. Etc.etc. lots of issues happening this year that can't be controlled...IT WILL BE WORSE NEXT YEAR !!!Nonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01192701231860793265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-64687738030414405002015-11-08T05:19:54.801-09:002015-11-08T05:19:54.801-09:008:02 is correct. But don't also overlook the f...8:02 is correct. But don't also overlook the failure of the processors, especially in Bristol Bay, to reinvest and upgrade their plants. No one has yet duplicated Lowerance and his accomplishments that continually put more money in his fleet's pockets. To get the most value per pound out of the fish at the lowest cost per pound you have to have high volume operations with H and G, fillet, portion half and quarter canning lines, oil etc. Silver Bay got the high volume part right and now they are starting fillets, but they still need canning to deal with the number 3 and small fish that can't be filleted and have low H and G value. They will probably get there eventually. But how do you wake up the others?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-77081031082444806332015-11-07T23:10:55.959-09:002015-11-07T23:10:55.959-09:008:02: You nailed it. Thank you.8:02: You nailed it. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-42459270542523385402015-11-07T15:32:20.845-09:002015-11-07T15:32:20.845-09:008:02......as a Bristol Bay fisherman.....I vote yo...8:02......as a Bristol Bay fisherman.....I vote you for presidentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-19781266118586498072015-11-07T08:02:55.884-09:002015-11-07T08:02:55.884-09:00Most of the comments on here are from people that ...Most of the comments on here are from people that think the processors are screwing them, that someone is at fault that they're not making more money. I wonder how many of these guys have RSW, float their fish, or most importantly in todays market bleed their fish. ( Can you even sell a sour, unbled tuna anymore ? why a sockeye ?) If the processors are making so much money, (some will lose money this year in Bristol Bay) why will Silver Bay fishermen/processor owners not receive anymore for their fish this year than the base price - are they screwing themselves ? Why do some fishermen think they can slam, throw, kick, stuff fish into their dry, warm bacteria ridden boat, then whine & demand that they get more money & that they're getting screwed. The low IQ gang has it figured out, it's the scabs fault from 20-30 years ago, time to strike ( strikes don't work with the here today, gone tomorrow spawning species like salmon & herring) and now it's the ill thought out "price mediator" idea. The idea of a price mediator would be great if you knew every year the exact amount of product that would be harvested, the exact amount of all competing product on the global market to be harvested, probability factor of possible Chilean coho or other farmed salmon disease outbreak, currency exchange forecasts etc. Once again another idea from the I want more money for my pile of shit crowd. It's a great idea on a year when there is a 25 mil forecast & 50 mil fish show up, I got my price-so what my processor was forced into bankruptcy, oh wait.. who am I going to sell to next year? But what about the year 50 mil are forecast & 25 mil show up, oops - just shot myseif in the foot, negotiated a price but the market doubled between June & August. When things aren't all rosy the cannibals & morons come out (buttjam's & scab yappers). I've been gillnetting the west coast for 49 years, 36 in Alaska & 34 in Bristol Bay and can see after reading the comments on this site why the rest of the industry thinks gillnetters, Bristol Bay especially, are a bunch of idiotsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-37465219837735898292015-11-06T23:13:42.176-09:002015-11-06T23:13:42.176-09:00A good read.
http://www.alaskajournal.com/2015-11...A good read. <br />http://www.alaskajournal.com/2015-11-04/confluence-factors-causing-disconnect-salmon-pricingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-11110758140970591642015-11-06T18:17:43.575-09:002015-11-06T18:17:43.575-09:00Yes, BBay ruined the whole states sockeye price.
Y...Yes, BBay ruined the whole states sockeye price.<br />You think .65 for 100,000 lbs is bad try .95 in SE with a 25,000 lb season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-47954466932543984162015-11-05T13:20:59.718-09:002015-11-05T13:20:59.718-09:00I would be interested to see what the state's ...I would be interested to see what the state's net margin for the whole bristol bay salmon fishery is. The total tax gross less all the ADFG cost, enforcement, Coast Guard, etc. I would venture that the state is running a serious loss with the fishery. On top of that, these BB whiners have the nerve to suggest that the state to step in and mediate on price. Its been said before the entire bristol bay fishery is a drag on the state...shut it down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-21593526288956400232015-11-05T10:45:33.012-09:002015-11-05T10:45:33.012-09:00Largest salmon run in the world, sustainable, worl...Largest salmon run in the world, sustainable, world markets increasing. United States imports of farmed salmon are increasing and U.S consumption is on the rise. There are new markets becoming available in China, Thailand, Vietnam and Maylasia all hungry for salmon. Oh yeah Bristol Bay fisherman we can only give you 50 cents a pound sorry but we don't know if we can handle the fish. BULLSHIT<br />We need to get our head out of the sand things can change but you need a start. A mediator, a price negotiator, a marketing co-op what ever. <br />Yes it will work but it has to have a start. Write your Senator or Congressman stop farmed fish from coming in or put higher tarriffs. Call your Market and tell them your not happy with the price. Be a pain in the ass. If you can afford it sit out a year and tell them why. <br /><br />BB permit holder, boat owner everything I have is paid and still can't make it at 50 centAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-67218210875486809852015-11-05T07:59:48.471-09:002015-11-05T07:59:48.471-09:00Ok, the strike talk has finally surfaced. I was wa...Ok, the strike talk has finally surfaced. I was waiting for that. Why do we study history? To learn from our mistakes. Those considering striking should study past history. They don't work in salmon fisheries. Don't give me the "if only everyone would unite" I won't and neither will many others. Yeah, yeah yeah....you're going come get me. You're going to trash my boat. You're going to put my name on a wall. Guess what, I've always broken strikes and NOTHING has ever happened. The only thing strikers get is the right to point fingers and whine. BB is a good fishery and our product is constantly improving. You strike promoters think in terms of us against the processors. Those of us that partner with our processors and invest to improve quality do not accept representation from anyone and WE WON'T EVER STRIKE! Bristol Bay provides a good living and/or supports our other occupations. It's a very good deal for us. If you don't like it get out. Oh, and buttjam...grow up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-85809104747327180642015-11-05T05:26:31.748-09:002015-11-05T05:26:31.748-09:00I have been fishing the Bay for over 35 years and ...I have been fishing the Bay for over 35 years and it's the same old story- too much fish, not enough fish, dollar too strong, too many small fish, too many big fish ,farmed salmon, alwas an excuse. Now we are getting what we got 35 years ago ,wait in 1980 it was 54 cents WTF. Supply and demand argument what B.S. there have been huge runs in the past and the fish got sold and the price was better than 50 cents. Same story different year, things will never change as there are alwas guys that will fish for nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com