tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post1486234942177424507..comments2024-03-28T14:57:56.538-08:00Comments on Deckboss: What's up with WASSIP?Deckbosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17148693485334011720noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-10018860083746711492013-02-18T06:56:13.863-09:002013-02-18T06:56:13.863-09:00APF= American Peoples Fish
Congress needs to take...APF= American Peoples Fish<br /><br />Congress needs to take a closer look at what's going on in Alaska and off the coast of Alaska. We're trashing poor peoples way of life just to feed the world poor quality bulk fish such as pollock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-59924752711635094182013-02-14T12:26:06.733-09:002013-02-14T12:26:06.733-09:00OPF=Other People's FishOPF=Other People's FishAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-82758699126859654582013-02-14T06:45:39.758-09:002013-02-14T06:45:39.758-09:00The "smell" is throughout this state - l...The "smell" is throughout this state - local, state and federal.<br /><br />That's what happens if a huge percentage of a population is too busy surviving day by day and there is no time left to watch the so called leaders guide the destiny of ones homeland. <br /><br />Those who take the time to pay attention are bullied and trashed. There is no justice in Alaska.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-63065313853238060232013-02-14T06:40:25.000-09:002013-02-14T06:40:25.000-09:00I feel sorry for those sorta smart people who have...I feel sorry for those sorta smart people who have to pimp for people dumber than they are. It's the entrenched BULLY system that Alaska is becoming quite famous for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-33634740302012876342013-02-13T23:05:09.147-09:002013-02-13T23:05:09.147-09:00Denby is free to work for whomever he wants. Afte...Denby is free to work for whomever he wants. After all ...this is the American system where you work for the Gov't and then "whore out" to whomever will pay you. Smart, well connected, and savvy on who is going to pay his bills in the future. What's your cause? How much $ you got? Sure I will push your agenda....what is it you want me to say? After that just tell him where the next contract is. Denby....you are a "sell out!" It was one thing to watch you as an emerging involved young lobbyist years ago. But now it is an example of just how wrong our system is at all levels from local ,state, to the smell at the Federal level. From decision making public sector...to private "what do you want to prove or disprove". Can we please just have someone that isn't chasing the instant money for their "expert testimony!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-9525594194075205522013-02-13T19:14:55.622-09:002013-02-13T19:14:55.622-09:00You guys swimming around with the schools of salmo...You guys swimming around with the schools of salmon going here and going there?<br /><br />How about no Commercial Fishing until all rivers in Alaska reach their escapement goals for sustainability. That'll cut out the crap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-1976900825837254922013-02-13T19:10:11.921-09:002013-02-13T19:10:11.921-09:005:37, I'm sure that it is a great comfort to t...5:37, I'm sure that it is a great comfort to those living on the Kuskokwim and Yukon that Nushagak chums are in the "same reporting group"<br /><br />I'm not an area M fisherman and it's not "smoke"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-58559598537493992222013-02-13T17:37:16.789-09:002013-02-13T17:37:16.789-09:00more smoke from the area m guy at 4:07. technicall...more smoke from the area m guy at 4:07. technically, nushagak chums are in the same reporting group as the rest of the ayk chums (cwak).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-272378915829208972013-02-13T16:07:06.201-09:002013-02-13T16:07:06.201-09:00I love how some commenters portray themselves as l...I love how some commenters portray themselves as lilly white terminal fishermen. <br /><br />There are more AYK chums caught in the Nushagak than area M. The fisheries in the mouth of the Yukon and Kuskokwim are total intercept fisheries in that they are fishing on mixed stocks and have a far greater likelyhood of doing damage to escapement the area M.<br /><br />None of the BB districts are truly terminal fisheries but that doesn't stop the self righteous whining. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-51514781939607275492013-02-13T07:50:25.169-09:002013-02-13T07:50:25.169-09:00Area M has plenty of their own fish to catch after...Area M has plenty of their own fish to catch after June. Who says they need to keep catching Bristol Bay and AYK's fish in June?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-7526797347118428022013-02-13T07:24:58.802-09:002013-02-13T07:24:58.802-09:00Maybe Area M needs to be shut down in order for th...Maybe Area M needs to be shut down in order for the salmon to safely reach their spawning grounds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-79982275292580145222013-02-12T12:45:11.856-09:002013-02-12T12:45:11.856-09:00Hold on Area M, it's gonna be a bumpy ride. 30...Hold on Area M, it's gonna be a bumpy ride. 30 years of intercepting other peoples fish against ADFG/BOF policy is long enough. Time to adhere to non-interceptive policy objectives. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-29417818518413402642013-02-12T07:21:05.013-09:002013-02-12T07:21:05.013-09:00So is BOF going to mandate salmon marking programs...So is BOF going to mandate salmon marking programs for Western Alaska without the blessings of ADF&G????? It needs to be done and it can be done because it was proven to be done in Western Alaska.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-55440389577723457232013-02-11T17:20:34.622-09:002013-02-11T17:20:34.622-09:00I am not Denby, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Ex...I am not Denby, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night, and I have to agree - the comment about Denby having Super Hero powers to reorganize Chum DNA truly is one of the most stupid comments ever on the DeckBoss. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-67066802359132459602013-02-11T14:12:36.723-09:002013-02-11T14:12:36.723-09:00There were no real surprises in the WASSIP report....There were no real surprises in the WASSIP report. Everyone has known for a long time that AREA M fishers have been harvesting sockeye stocks that were destined for other terminal areas. What stands out the most is the high number of Sockeyes harvested in Outer Port Heiden By Area M fishers that are headed for Egigik and Ugashik. There will be some feathers flying over some of the proposals that take that fishery away from them. One way of looking at the overall issue is understanding that if Area M fishers don't catch them, someone else will. So the question is; in the absence of a need to get those fish into the Egigik or Ugashik rivers in order to make escapement , which is not currently necessary, should the allocation to Area M which has been in effect since 2007, be changed. And what would be the reason for doing so, other than the argument that "they are our fish". Some will argue that if these fish are not harvested at the present location that there will be that dreaded over escapement into the Meshik river. But it is clear that a large percentage of the fish caught are not going to the Meshik, rather to more northern BB rivers.There will some healthy discussions on these proposals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-49297426341116131812013-02-11T08:32:01.087-09:002013-02-11T08:32:01.087-09:00Cape Denby Headquarters?
PROPOSAL 211 – 5 AAC 09....Cape Denby Headquarters?<br /><br />PROPOSAL 211 – 5 AAC 09.XXX. Area M fishery regulatory changes and/or management plans pertaining to chum and sockeye salmon. Placeholder for possible regulatory changes based on results from Western Alaska Salmon Stock Identification Project (WASSIP) as follows:<br />ISSUE: This is a placeholder proposal to allow fishery stakeholders, the board, and the department an opportunity to discuss proposed regulatory changes in Area M based upon results of the Western Alaska Salmon Stock Identification Project, which will not be available until late summer 2012.<br />WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF NOTHING IS DONE? Potentially important information regarding fisheries management will not be utilized until the next Alaska Board of Fisheries cycle for Area M in 2015/2016.<br /><br />PROPOSED BY: Alaska Department of Fish and Game. (HQ-F12-230)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-34457453913799623592013-02-10T14:37:07.702-09:002013-02-10T14:37:07.702-09:00ooooooh, Denby's testy this morning!ooooooh, Denby's testy this morning!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-66686984995118672022013-02-10T11:22:54.416-09:002013-02-10T11:22:54.416-09:002/19@7:42 pm. Congrats, that's quite possibly...2/19@7:42 pm. Congrats, that's quite possibly the dumbest comment ever on Deckboss, and that's saying something. <br /><br />CWAK chums are so homogenous genetically that, with even the latest genetic technology, they can't be distinguished accurately. There is no dark, sinister motive. Go tell your theories to the guys in the Gene Lab in Anchorage, they might find them amusing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-9599202822397588592013-02-10T07:27:05.038-09:002013-02-10T07:27:05.038-09:00Well, it was a good thing that the WASSIP study wa...Well, it was a good thing that the WASSIP study was done even though it provided another stall for the Norton Sound region, especially the Nome area rivers on getting anything done to help the salmon runs that are crashing toward extinction and the back- door meetings continue and the people are regulated to "non-salmon" workshops and jigging sticks for trash fish like tom cods and bullheads.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-74862228298893565762013-02-09T19:42:12.219-09:002013-02-09T19:42:12.219-09:00@ 5:47...it failed to identify chums because Denby...@ 5:47...it failed to identify chums because Denby Lloyd oversaw the project. Think he wanted better chum stock ID from Area M? Just look at who hired him back immediately after he "retired".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-83173773033094477022013-02-09T17:47:53.965-09:002013-02-09T17:47:53.965-09:00wassip gave some good ancillary info, but quite si...wassip gave some good ancillary info, but quite simply, it failed at what it set out to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-20317144832519749032013-02-09T13:13:54.417-09:002013-02-09T13:13:54.417-09:00@ 12:14...they most certainly did ask that questio...@ 12:14...they most certainly did ask that question, but were not able to find that level of genetic resolution without having giant error bars around the estimates.<br /><br />You may be right that there is significant interception occurring there, but WASSIP failed to get there. Not from a lack of trying, however.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-80527084728408690082013-02-09T12:14:16.612-09:002013-02-09T12:14:16.612-09:007:43
They didn't ask the question and their ...7:43 <br /><br />They didn't ask the question and their grouping CWAK is politically convenient . As it obscures what I am guessing is likely the greatest intercept of Kusko and Yukon chums outside thier respective management regions.<br /><br />That said the fisheries in the lower Kusko and Yukon are also major intercept fisheries though its not pc to refer to them as such.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-17792215742646180272013-02-08T19:43:57.272-09:002013-02-08T19:43:57.272-09:00@ 6:18: go read the report because your comments i...@ 6:18: go read the report because your comments indicate that you clearly haven'tAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-63058344619737110972013-02-08T18:18:29.221-09:002013-02-08T18:18:29.221-09:00I'm not an area M'er.
I don't care h...I'm not an area M'er.<br /><br /> I don't care how BB chums are "categorized". That's just a weasel word. What % of Nush chums are bound for the Kusko and points west and north. <br /><br />3:51, are you so afraid of the answer that you won't let the question be asked?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com