tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post1298062517708593875..comments2024-03-26T00:58:48.112-08:00Comments on Deckboss: A fishermen's Tea PartyDeckbosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17148693485334011720noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-67071632016884861512010-02-25T17:44:51.234-09:002010-02-25T17:44:51.234-09:00Thank you for saying that. Ex vessel is not the o...Thank you for saying that. Ex vessel is not the only value in commercial fisheries. They support the community around themAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-5789378189127712072010-02-25T15:01:43.520-09:002010-02-25T15:01:43.520-09:00Probably not worth getting into this with you, but...Probably not worth getting into this with you, but might as well put in my two cents. Interesting that he compared ex-vessel to actual sales numbers for commercial vs. recreational. I’ve seen this a lot and think it a bit disingenuous. The more comparable numbers may be perhaps the $70 billion spent by Americans on fish products and the $20.1 billion received by US companies from exports. This doesn't even include all the support industries which is really the only thing counted for the recreational number, because it doesn’t actually produce anything tangible for comparison. <br /><br />How much of the $82 billion in sales for the recreational numbers were sent back to where the gear was made? Mostly imports? I admit I don’t know. What was the actual economic revenue that remained in the US? 500,000 jobs is a big number but includes everything from fishing guides to hotel clerks. In total in 2008 in the US there were only 35,600 fishers and fishing vessel operators. This doesn’t seem very large in comparison, but then add the number of fish processors, shippers, salesmen, restaurant workers, ship builders, dry dock workers, fuel dock operators, gear manufacturers, etc… and the number swells considerably, I doubt anyone has a really good estimate, at least I’ve not seen one. Wesley there’s a good project for you. <br /><br />I still feel this country can only be strong if it continues to produce tangible items and is in control of its own food supply. Commercial fishing remains one of the few industries in this nation that actually makes something you can hold in your hands, touch, taste, smell.... Basing a nation’s future entirely on information technology and service industries seems to be a bit short-sided, but appears to be where we are headed. <br /><br />Recreation is important and there should be room at the table for everyone, but at the end of the day what are you going to eat off that table and where does it come from?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9188370370448778552.post-78481420581383419732010-02-25T11:24:44.863-09:002010-02-25T11:24:44.863-09:00Uhh, let's see, the common refrain at the NPFM...Uhh, let's see, the common refrain at the NPFMC and IPHC is that recreational salt water anglers are a nuissance, pests, locusts out to destroy the immense economic values generated by commercial fisheries.<br /><br />USA - commercial fishing ex-vessel values at $6.3 billion, while USA recreational salt water anglers generated $82 billion in sales. <br /><br />About right, a less than one to ten value in economic output when contrasting commercial and recreational fishing sectors, while the amounts used in pounds would be reversed - more than 10 times poundage harvested in commercial fisheries to that of sport fisheries. <br /><br />Can we get a case study of the various economic contributions through commercial and recreational uses of this resource in the Halibut fishery? <br /><br />Or can we just be content to stay in stasis with a jury rigged GHL standard not based on comprehensive economic analysis?<br /><br />Let's see, another way to put this in perspective is to say that the 50% increase in the USA commercial ex-vessel values is equivalent to the margin of error in estimates of the USA recreational salt water angler sales.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com